[The book] is told from the patient's point of view or from a
patient-advocacy perspective: what a person with cancer needs to know about
clinical trials, how to find clinical trials, and how to decide whether a
clinical trial is right for them.
I found the mention of clinical trials in
the Book of Daniel, (Daniel 1:11).
The most important message [of my book] is that everyone with
cancer should at least consider clinical trials along with the standard
treatment options that are open to them.
There are some very promising treatments coming down the pike
for various kinds of cancer, and clinical trials give you the opportunity
to get a possibly better treatment years before it is available to the general
public.
The treatments that are being developed are going to be better
and less expensive in the long run and people are going to live who would
otherwise have died.
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An Interview with Author Robert Finn
by Bonnie Allen
Clinical trials are the backbone of progress in cancer research. Yet the
National Cancer Institute
estimates that fewer than five percent of cancer patients
participate in clinical trials, despite often heroic efforts on the part
of researchers to recruit participants.
"Increasing participation in cancer clinical trials is a major goal of the
NCI and other cancer organizations," said Linda Lamb, editor of Robert Finn's
new book, Cancer Clinical
Trials: Experimental Treatments and How They Can Help You.
The NCI knows that a significant increase in participation would enormously
speed up the development of effective therapies and better use of existing
ones. A recent breakthrough in breast cancer therapy using the drug herceptin
was made possible by clinical trials, and the success of other trials has
depended in part on a grassroots effort that recruited large numbers of
participants for the trials.
Why then, is it so often hard to get patients into clinical trials?
One reason is a misunderstanding about the nature of clinical trials. Few
patients want to be "guinea pigs" for some unproven therapy, and doctors are
often hesitant to recommend clinical trials.
Cancer Clinical
Trials teaches readers how to find and evaluate clinical trials
and how to decide whether to participate in them. Readers learn the
difference between Phase I, II, and III trials and why placebos are almost
never given in cancer clinical trials (in most trials, everyone gets real
therapy). They're also guided through the process of choosing and evaluating a
clinical trial. As a resource for finding appropriate clinical trials, funding
them, and understanding the history and science behind modern clinical trials,
this book is of use not only for cancer patients and their families, but for
the members of their healthcare teams as well.
We began our interview with author
Robert Finn
by asking him how his book is different from other books on clinical trials.
- Finn:
- There are no other books specifically about cancer clinical trials. The
National Cancer Institute puts out an informative but fairly short brochure
on clinical trials, and there are many other books about cancer that mention
them. But this book goes into more detail than any other book out there on
cancer clinical trials.
Also, the brochures and the other books that do mention clinical trials
aren't always written from the patient's point of view. Sometimes they
reflect the drug company's or the researcher's point of view. Like all of
the books in the Patient-Centered Guide series,
Cancer Clinical
Trials is told from the patient's point of view or from a
patient-advocacy perspective: what a person with cancer needs to know about
clinical trials, how to find clinical trials, and how to decide whether a
clinical trial is right for them.
One of the things that I think is especially valuable about the book is that
it includes the voices of patients, people who have actually participated in
clinical trials, with extended quotations from interviews I conducted with
those people.
- Allen:
- How did you find these people?
- Finn:
- I found most of them on the Internet. There are a number of very good
Internet sites on cancer and cancer clinical trials and an excellent email
discussion group on cancer. I would find people through these areas who had
participated in clinical trials and ask them if they would be interested in
being interviewed. Virtually everyone said yes.
- Allen:
- So, the Internet is a good source of information about clinical trials?
- Finn:
- Oh, yes. The Internet makes it easy to find clinical trials. And there
is such a wealth of information and support on the Internet for people with
cancer and people considering clinical trials.
- Allen:
- Do you see an audience for this book beyond that of cancer patients and
family members?
- Finn:
- That is the primary audience of the book. I think that everybody with
cancer--and 1.2 million people a year are diagnosed with cancer in the United
States--should consider clinical trials, and this book is the best way for
them to do that. I think it will also interest people who are interested in
the process of how drugs come to be tested. But the primary audience, and it's
a large one, is people with cancer and their families.
- Allen:
- One of the things that non-cancer patients might find useful about the
book is its history of medical experimentation and the evolution of patients'
rights in response to it.
- Finn:
- Yes. One of the chapters in the book has a fairly detailed history of
clinical trials going back, literally, to the Bible. I found the mention of
clinical trials in the Book of Daniel, (Daniel 1:11). Unfortunately, the
history of clinical trials has been a very checkered one. There were the
well-known Nazi atrocities where they experimented on unwilling, involuntary
subjects in concentration camps, horrific experiments.
It wasn't, unfortunately, just the Nazis who did unethical things at clinical
trials; there have been plenty of unethical clinical trials in this country
as well, most notably the Tuskegee syphilis experiment in which several
hundred African-American men with syphilis were left untreated for decades
even after good treatments for syphilis became available, just so doctors
could watch the natural course of the disease. It was a terrible story that
only came to light in 1971. Books were written about it, and it was a huge
national scandal that was directly responsible for far more stringent federal
controls on clinical trials.
It's extremely unusual these days for bad things to happen in clinical trials.
There are so many protections for patients and participants. But this chapter
goes into detail about the history and ethical obligations of both the
researchers and the participants in clinical trials.
- Allen:
- The other thing that was valuable to me was that this book really makes
it clear why the scientific method is important, how the principles we've
developed for testing medical procedures work, and why procedures need to be
tested beyond "anecdotal evidence."
- Finn:
- Yes. Every time I go into a bookstore I look at the health section and, in
many bookstores, the number of books on alternative medicine exceeds the
number of books on modern medicine. We know so much more than our ancestors
did about how the body works and how to treat many diseases that I think
people should consider modern medicine before they consider alternative
medicine.
But let me say a couple of things about that as it relates to cancer clinical
trials. First of all, in Phase I and Phase II clinical trials, everybody gets
the study medication. Nobody gets the placebo. In Phase III, it is true that
people are randomized and some people get the study medication, but the people
who don't get the study medication almost never get inactive medication.
Cancer is such a serious illness, it would be unethical to leave somebody
untreated. What they do in Phase III cancer clinical trials is compare the
new treatment against the current best standard treatment, so nobody is going
without treatment. Even if you participate in a Phase III cancer clinical
trial, you're guaranteed to get at least the best available standard treatment, or you might get the study medication.
Many people really want the study medication. I understand
that, but I think people need to understand that the reason clinical trials
are conducted is that scientists don't know whether the study medication is
better than the standard medication. That's why they have to compare them. It
may be worse than the standard medication, so I don't think somebody should
necessarily be disappointed if they don't get the study medication.
- Allen:
- So, patients in clinical trails will probably get excellent care.
- Finn:
- Absolutely. You'd probably be watched much more closely than you would if
you weren't participating in a clinical trial. The top doctors in your area
will be looking at you, and they'll be examining you more closely and more
frequently.
- Allen:
- What would you consider the most important message in this book?
- Finn:
- The most important message is that everyone with cancer should at
least consider clinical trials along with the standard treatment options
that are open to them. I am not saying that everyone with cancer should
participate in a clinical trial--that's a very individual decision. It
depends on your risk tolerance and what clinical trials are available for
your specific cancer at the specific time that you're looking. But unless
you are considering clinical trials along with the standard treatment options
your doctor is offering you, you're simply not considering all the treatment
options that are available to you.
There are some very promising treatments coming down the pike for various
kinds of cancer, and clinical trials give you the opportunity to get a
possibly better treatment years before it is available to the general public.
- Allen:
- Another aspect of clinical trials is that they benefit future cancer
patients, though this may be a hard sell for patients who are struggling
for their own survival.
- Finn:
- I think it needs to be emphasized that altruism is a very good reason
to participate in clinical trials. Many people who have terminal cancers
participate in clinical trials for that reason. Even though they know that
there may be no realistic hope that the clinical trial will help them
personally, they can take comfort in knowing that the information that
scientists get by studying them will help other people down the road.
- Allen:
- What about the cost of clinical trials to the patient? Many HMOs do not
fund experimental treatments.
- Finn:
- Any study that's funded by either the National Cancer Institute or
another federal agency, or a pharmaceutical company, will pay the full cost
of the study medication or the study treatment, the experimental part of
the treatment.
What they will not pay is the cost of the standard treatment of somebody's
cancer. The problem comes with some HMOs and insurance companies refusing to
pay even the standard cost of standard treatment when a person is enrolled in
a clinical trial. Some states have laws that require HMOs and other health
insurance organizations to pay the standard costs of treatment for somebody
enrolled in a clinical trial, but so far that's only a minority of the
states. The State of Virginia, for instance, recently passed such a law in
recognition of the importance of clinical trials to cancer research.
You may have heard of the Patients' Bill of Rights, which is currently being
debated in the U.S. Congress. The Democratic version of the bill would
require that insurance companies pick up the cost of standard care for people
enrolled in sanctioned clinical trials. The Republican version does not
require that, and neither version has been passed yet; it's still subject to
discussion. Studies have shown that clinical trials cost only slightly more,
if at all, than standard treatment.
- Allen:
- Just in terms of dollars and cents, it seems any advance in treatment is
going to save money down the road.
- Finn:
- Oh, yes. The treatments that are being developed are going to be better
and less expensive in the long run and people are going to live who would
otherwise have died.
- Allen:
- What do you bring to this book in terms of your background and interests?
- Finn:
- I'm a biologist by training. I started out intending to be a research
neuroscientist. Midway through the graduate program at the Department of
Psychobiology at the University of California, Irvine, I discovered I
preferred writing about science to actually doing the experiments, so I have
been pursuing a career as a science writer ever since.
I have always been fascinated by the process of clinical trials: how drugs
get from laboratory to the pharmacist's shelf. This was a casual interest
until about six or seven years ago when I did some freelance work writing
technical materials for a clinical research organization. I got to see from
the inside what a clinical research organization is--a company that conducts
clinical trials under contracts from pharmaceutical companies--and I got
fascinated by the whole process of clinical trials.
- Allen:
- Tell me about your next book.
- Finn:
- The next book is another in the
Patient-Centered Guide
series. Its tentative title is Organ Transplants: Making the Most of Your
Gift of Life, and it's for people who have had or who may need an organ
transplant. It goes into detail about how the waiting list works, the various
medications that people with organ transplants have to take, the side
effects of those medications, and the emotional and psychological consequences
of organ transplants.
- Allen:
- And will the book cover research that is being done in the field?
- Finn:
- The final chapter in the organ transplant book is called "The Future of
Transplantation." It's a very fast-moving field that's changing literally
every day.
- Allen:
- I understand that you are giving workshops based on your research for
Cancer Clinical
Trials. Can you tell me about that?
- Finn:
- Yes. My workshop, which I'll give for any cancer group who wants to see
it, will take people through what clinical trials are, what the various
phases of clinical trials are, how to find clinical trials, and how to
evaluate clinical trials. Basically the same thing that the book does.
- Allen:
- So how could people get in touch with you to arrange a workshop?
- Finn:
- If they have a group of, say, 20 or more people who are interested in
having this workshop, they should email me at
finn@nasw.org.
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